April 18, 2009 8:48 am
Troll With It, Baby
Posted by Will under idiots, internet
[17] Comments
I think I comment too much. In fact, I know I do. If I see a photo on Flickr or read a post on LAist, or Losanjealous, or Franklin Avenue, or Curbed LA — or any number of personal blogs that I frequent and enjoy on a regular basis — I won’t hesitate to chime in and under my name because I’m not one of those anonymousers that thrive and drive the internest.
Clearly I’m also not someone with a lack of time on my hands, because rarely do I see my fellow LA bloggers commenting elsewhere with the enthusiasm and frequency that I do. They all apparently have lives, and priorities and self-restraint and generally better things to do than run around sharing the comment love (or hate, as the case may be).
Anyway, I got called out for over-commenting by one of them anonymice the other day over on The Eastsider LA blog, a relatively new tenant to the LA blogominiumplexosphere that I drop by to check out a couple/three times a day to see what’s new and up. It’s become a great resource for things happening in my area (even if we might differ in our constitutions of “east side”).
My comment came in response to a post about a woman walking her leashed dog who was assaulted by an unleashed dog owner in Elysian Park. Feeling threatened by the loose and aggressive animal she ended up tossing a rock at it in frustration and, well, the loose dog’s owner — another woman — went ballistic, slapping her and threatening her.
The unfortunate incident reminded me of a similar one I experienced when an off-leash dog charged us about 15 years ago, while my then 5-year-old daughter and I were walking Shadow out in front of the apartment building I lived in at the time on Burbank Boulevard in Encino. Without going into all the boring details I wound up protecting my kid and my dog, which resulted in me unfortunately injuring the loose animal and then dealing with its almost equally aggressive owner who came running up the street angry that I dared defend against his free-ranging beast.
Silly me I nutshelled that story in a comment to that Elysian Park assault post, offering it not so much as study in what a badass I am, but instead as a tutorial to the benefits of leashing up your dog, since sometimes it’s the off-leashed animal that suffers the worst of the deal:
A short while later I found a couple shadow-dwelling keyboard peckerheads taking potshots at me:
In my responses, I tried to be good-naturedly snarky — especially about the “ish” talking. Then the next day I find more asshattedness:
Now, I’m not one to trouble with trolls or be troubled much by them — in fact whereas conventional wisdom dictates igonoring the bastards, I can rightfully be accused of overfeeding them because I find it fun to keep coming back with semi-considerate replies at them and their goadings until they eventually realize they can’t win against me and give up lamely trying.
But I think what the third one (or maybe it’s the same jackass, for all I know) wrote carries with it a kernel of truth:
“He’s like bed bugs but for comments… everywhere and impossible to get rid of.”
How ironic that such hyperbole would come from a representative of the ultimate in deathless internet pest, but nevertheless I think I agree.
And so I’m going to stop, or at least give stopping a try. Sort of. From now on, if I find a post on a blog I frequent — be it a personal one, an “east side” one or one of the larger group/topical/regional blogs I haunt, instead of flailing my fingertips across my keyboard over there and giving pieces of my mind away free, I’ll consider if its worthwhile tapping out my thoughts over here and linking across to it.
While such a drastic scale-back in interaction could be seen as a troll victory, I see it more as bringing the little satellites I launch to a place in-house, where any uninvited chickenshits might think twice before bitchslapping at me, or at least understand that in doing so greater scrutiny can be focused on their reduced anonymity, and far less patience.







April 18th, 2009 at 9:11 am
You’ve pointed out an uncomfortable truth about our world today, in a non-politically correct way–that many dog owners are irresponsible.
My observations:
- You are not being trolled b/c of how many times you commented, but you’ve injured the weak psyche of “anonymous.”
- I don’t appreciate dogs running loose all the time. They can and do injure people all the time.
- Dog owners assume that everybody else loves their dogs as much as them–we don’t and won’t.
- As an avid swimmer, I frequent more than a fair share of parks–and am never disappointed by the dog owners who ignore the “No Dogs” or “Dog Leash” signs.
- Dogs crap a lot and their owners aren’t as responsible as they make themselves out to be.
- IMHO, you’re only hurting yourself by limiting your online activity, as it’s painfully obvious that one idiot’s insecurities have been unmercifully set free to hurt our eyes–and brains.
Ok, I feel much better now.
April 18th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Don’t change a thing. I look to you as the perfect example of a cyber presence. You have a full life and yet you manage to update regularly, keep it interesting and acknowledge others by leaving comments on their websites.
The bedbugs comment is so silly its almost funny.
“Will Campbell is like bedbugs but for comments…. he’s everywhere and impossible to get rid of.” What a great tagline!
April 18th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Thanks David. While this plan will certainly reduce the number of quick-hit comments I drop all over blogland, overall I see it as an experiment that while more restrictive will allow me to go long-form with my opinions (outspoken and otherwise) in a bit more buffered zone, while still also recognizing the posts and their blogs that bring them about.
If nothing else, my six readers might find out about something they otherwise might not have caught.
April 18th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Thanks Jo. I appreciate the vote of confidence. I’m gonna give it a go, but if it proves too confining I won’t let anything stop me from returning to my previous ways!
April 18th, 2009 at 10:31 am
I for one love that you comment freely, widely, and with your name attached.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
I thought the point of blogging WAS to have people leave comments and engage in discourse? Not to mention that your comments are polite, you share your experiences, and you are clearly an animal lover.
But then again, I live in a world where I expect people to be polite.
April 18th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Will, I second, or in this case 5th, the above comments, and can state with all honesty that:
1) I enjoy seeing your comments as I explore hitherto unfamiliar places on the interwebs;
2) Anyone who has read your blog and/or comments for more than 5 minutes knows that you are brutal in your self-honesty, and any reference to “tough-guy” behavior is usually followed by clear-eyed examination of your own behavior;
3) If you ever stop commenting on my blog, I will never forgive you, and pledge to haunt you in this lifetime and the next.
I think Jo is on to something. Your new personal slogan should be “Will Campbell is everywhere and impossible to get rid of.”
In fact, I think you should put that on a t-shirt. And I’ll buy the first one.
April 18th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Hey Will, we always welcome your comments at Franklin Avenue, please don’t stop!
April 19th, 2009 at 1:05 am
I have curtailed my comments at one website and strangely I don’t think anyone will miss me. Politics is a game where everyone tries to get five seconds of fame with fifteen minutes of flaming….
Animal lovers is a strange arena. Since more people without children are having pets instead I guess people don’t seem to want to invest much time in being responsible for the things that they are supposed to take care of.
Will, I know you have been trying hard to change the things that effect you. It is a learning process because how to react on a given situation often has too many variables to take into consideration.
Conversely when children act bad, I often take immediate action and chastise them (not hitting them though) What right does a parent have to come up to me later and tell me that they are the ones to correct their children? And they tell me to not bother their children? Didn’t Hillary C. keep telling us that it takes a village to raise a child? (or pet?)
April 19th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Will, I love your comments, so please keep visiting Travelin’ Local.
Plus, I totally agree with your dog assessment. I was once walking in a park with my young children, when a large unleashed (At the time, I was living on the East Coast where the law said dogs were suppose to be leashed at all times) dog came bounding up our trail.
Suddenly, my second daughter, who was 3 years old at the time, comes running up to me, screaming at the top of her lungs, scared to death of the dog. She tightly holds my legs while she crys and sobs. A few moments later, a couple, who are the dog’s owner, come up and just look at me and my daughter. I told them their dog had just scared the life out of my daughter, and they just pass me by without any acknowledgement of the crime, yes, having the dog unleashed was a crime.
To this day, my daughter isn’t fond of dogs, and she is 23 years old. I’m sure this incident isn’t the sole reason, but it didn’t help.
Thank you for speaking up. Your closing statement expresses my thoughts exactly.
April 19th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
+1.
While I find it sad to see your cyber-presence shrink, I can see your point. On a podcast I heard a few years ago, someone compared the blogs of America, France and Britain. If I remember correctly, the French totally absorbed what they read, and responded with well-thought-out and fully fleshed out opinions; the Britons were snarky and also expressed their personal medical ailments freely, oddly; the Americans were snarky.
So that’s the environment we operate in. It’s brutal. But your thoughtful comments are appreciated. Some of them are gems.
Reading your comment, I could see how someone would think you were a bit rough. And if they didn’t read your blog, they wouldn’t know that you’re a dedicated animal supporter.
Whenever I remember, I ask myself three things before I hit the SUBMIT button:
- Is it kind?
- Is it wise?
- Is it (I forget… ‘helpful?’).
Write on.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:31 am
I have been on both sides of the leash story if you will. The score remains leashed 0 unleashed 4. My unleashed dog gave an unsuspecting admirer a bite. In return I have received 3 bites all at different times of course from unleashed dogs. Three for one I wish my IRA was that generous.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
just so you know, i gave an uppercut to a chihuahua. so don’t feel bad.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
What??? OMG, I struggle to comment more! I aspire to comment more! Commenting is AWESOME. You are AWESOME when you comment!!!
I read something recently that described these people as vampires. They don’t use their name, they don’t have a blog, they aren’t contributing ANYTHING positive to the space.
There is absolutely not one kernel of sense in what they said and you should disregard them completely. Please, please, please: Carry On.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:11 am
Looks like you have a huge fan base over at the eastsider, Will.
April 27th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
I too enjoy your comments around the blogs we both read. You’ve also left some very kind ones on my blog, as we seem to be kindred spirits in terms of our love for animals, especially dogs.
I don’t see anything wrong with the comment you left, but then again I can be a bit daft sometimes! I’ve had off-leash dogs lunge at my leashed dogs and it’s scary. Luckily, mine are only small to medium and can be picked up. Still scary as then I feel like I could easily be the target. I’ve stopped going to sanctioned off-leash dog parks, as irresponsible owners have let some scary shit go on there too.
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